# No Group: Update/Delete node? **URL:** \ **Category:** Help\ **Tags:** experience, workflow\ **Created:** [February 28, 2021, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.losant.com/t/no-group-update-delete-node/3634 "2021-02-28T09:50:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![steen\_cummings1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@steen\_cummings1](https://forums.losant.com/u/steen_cummings1)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2021, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.losant.com/t/no-group-update-delete-node/3634/1 "2021-02-28T09:50:42Z")
I was hoping to be able to implement RBAC modification controls that can be created from an experience page (via workflows). I was intending to use experience groups for this, however I can’t find any nodes that would allow for the update or deletion of an experience group. Is there another method to be able to achieve this using workflows? Ideally, this shouldn’t be solely managed in losant console. ![nodes](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/getstructure/original/2X/0/027ca0caa41b23833e4c40fe6e7c58f033756785.png) ---
**Author:** ![Dylan\_Schuster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.losant.com/dylan_schuster/32/2850_2.png) [@Dylan\_Schuster](https://forums.losant.com/u/Dylan_Schuster)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2021, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.losant.com/t/no-group-update-delete-node/3634/3 "2021-02-28T15:21:10Z")
You’re correct in that we don’t have any first-class nodes for updating or deleting experience groups. However, you do have the [Losant API Node](https://docs.losant.com/workflows/data/losant-api/), which would allow you to perform both of those operations. To update a group, select the Experience Group: Patch action. You will need to provide the group ID and also build your update object using a JSON template or a payload path, with the value validating against the request’s [schema](https://docs.losant.com/rest-api/schemas/#experience-group-patch). To delete a group, select the Experience Group: Delete action. For that operation, you only need provide a group ID. ---
**Author:** ![steen\_cummings1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@steen\_cummings1](https://forums.losant.com/u/steen_cummings1)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.losant.com/t/no-group-update-delete-node/3634/4 "2021-02-28T21:38:21Z")
Perfect, exactly what I was after. Thankyou 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jose\_Cruz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.losant.com/jose_cruz/32/1580_2.png) [@Jose\_Cruz](https://forums.losant.com/u/Jose_Cruz)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.losant.com/t/no-group-update-delete-node/3634/6 "2021-04-09T01:50:15Z")
@Dylan_Schuster I think @steen_cummings1 does make a good point of having/wanting a **Group:Update** node since there’s an **User:Update** one. If not, then at least to be able to ‘template’ the **User:Create** :_Groups_ (which currently, it seems, can only be chosen from a list), see example below: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/getstructure/original/2X/7/736ae82740ffc4f7dccc6bef72513c2dbacbe18c.png) Definitely a Feature Request! 🔴 ---
**Author:** ![Dylan\_Schuster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.losant.com/dylan_schuster/32/2850_2.png) [@Dylan\_Schuster](https://forums.losant.com/u/Dylan_Schuster)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.losant.com/t/no-group-update-delete-node/3634/8 "2021-04-09T12:53:57Z")
Thanks for the feedback. We already have the feature request in for the Group: Update Node. As for the User: Create and User: Update Nodes, it is already possible to add templates to those fields. I got this in by clicking the input, typing “{{working.group}}”, and then hitting Enter. See attached. ![Screen Shot 2021-04-09 at 8.52.49 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/getstructure/original/2X/a/a9b09f6ee2d5bfe85fadecd2d7cf2815dae759ae.png) ---
**Author:** ![Jose\_Cruz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.losant.com/jose_cruz/32/1580_2.png) [@Jose\_Cruz](https://forums.losant.com/u/Jose_Cruz)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.losant.com/t/no-group-update-delete-node/3634/10 "2021-04-09T18:49:37Z")
Thank you @Dylan_Schuster , that did the trick! (by adding the **group ID** already available in the payload) Maybe, as a suggestion, just need to add the typical ‘_is templatable_’ as highlighted in yellow below to avoid confusion and/or help in the process. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/getstructure/original/2X/3/3c3093ed6148c113b260db946487bc5120e970a2.png) Just a sug. Thanks again for the help! 🔴